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Single Sign On Service Messages   Related Types This message was discovered on ASPFriends.com 'ngfx-hailstorm' list. CBurnet2@fnmortgage.com I see a need at our company for some sort of Single Sign On for all of our applications (web-based and other). I know that Microsoft Passport is supposed to handle this out on public web sites. However, is there anything analagous available for corporate in-house development or do we need to roll our own? And I guess another question would be - is a web service a good idea for Single Sign On? We would be using this for all new systems going forward. I anticipate that all new systems will be web-based. Mostly developed in ASP or ASP.NET using SQL Server, but some could be developed in JSP with an Oracle back end. It would seem that in a heterogeneous environment some sort of login service would be appropriate. Corey Burnett Reply to this message...        Phil Winstanley Grab your self a copy of Professional ASP.NET Web Services by Wrox it has a case study on building one - its pretty simple. Hth, Plip. -- Phil Winstanley, Creations Group Limited http://www.creations-group.com mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address -- =20 -----Original Message----- From: Click here to reveal e-mail address [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address]=20 Sent: 22 January 2002 16:29 To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] Single Sign On Service I see a need at our company for some sort of Single Sign On for all of our applications (web-based and other). I know that Microsoft Passport is supposed to handle this out on public web sites. However, is there anything analagous available for corporate in-house development or do we need to roll our own? And I guess another question would be - is a web service a good idea for Single Sign On? We would be using this for all new systems going forward. I anticipate that all new systems will be web-based. Mostly developed in ASP or ASP.NET using SQL Server, but some could be developed in JSP with an Oracle back end. It would seem that in a heterogeneous environment some sort of login service would be appropriate. Corey Burnett | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address =3D YOUR = ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp =3D JOIN/QUIT Reply to this message...        Todd Carrico Why not use AD integration? tc -----Original Message----- From: Phil Winstanley [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:50 AM To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] RE: Single Sign On Service Grab your self a copy of Professional ASP.NET Web Services by Wrox it has a case study on building one - its pretty simple. Hth, Plip. -- Phil Winstanley, Creations Group Limited http://www.creations-group.com mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address -- -----Original Message----- From: Click here to reveal e-mail address [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: 22 January 2002 16:29 To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] Single Sign On Service I see a need at our company for some sort of Single Sign On for all of our applications (web-based and other). I know that Microsoft Passport is supposed to handle this out on public web sites. However, is there anything analagous available for corporate in-house development or do we need to roll our own? And I guess another question would be - is a web service a good idea for Single Sign On? We would be using this for all new systems going forward. I anticipate that all new systems will be web-based. Mostly developed in ASP or ASP.NET using SQL Server, but some could be developed in JSP with an Oracle back end. It would seem that in a heterogeneous environment some sort of login service would be appropriate. Corey Burnett | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT Reply to this message...        CBurnet2@fnmortgage.com I probably will. But from within the web service. How would a JSP application access Active Directory? Also, I would think that building a web service would simplify and standardize authentication so that developers on a project don't need to worry about how AD works - they can just use the published web service interface. I am a relative newbie but I am guessing that what I said makes sense! Right? Corey -----Original Message----- From: Todd Carrico [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:57 AM To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] RE: Single Sign On Service Why not use AD integration? tc -----Original Message----- From: Phil Winstanley [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:50 AM To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] RE: Single Sign On Service Grab your self a copy of Professional ASP.NET Web Services by Wrox it has a case study on building one - its pretty simple. Hth, Plip. -- Phil Winstanley, Creations Group Limited http://www.creations-group.com mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address -- -----Original Message----- From: Click here to reveal e-mail address [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: 22 January 2002 16:29 To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] Single Sign On Service I see a need at our company for some sort of Single Sign On for all of our applications (web-based and other). I know that Microsoft Passport is supposed to handle this out on public web sites. However, is there anything analagous available for corporate in-house development or do we need to roll our own? And I guess another question would be - is a web service a good idea for Single Sign On? We would be using this for all new systems going forward. I anticipate that all new systems will be web-based. Mostly developed in ASP or ASP.NET using SQL Server, but some could be developed in JSP with an Oracle back end. It would seem that in a heterogeneous environment some sort of login service would be appropriate. Corey Burnett | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT Reply to this message...        Erba Pablo-ape004 Corey, here in Motorola we use Active Directory & LDAP Authentication = system for all our Intranet applications. It=B4s interesting investigate on it. Regards, pablo. Pablo Erba Desarrollador VB/VB.NET - COM+ - ASP Motorola Argentina S.A. Click here to reveal e-mail address <mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address>=20 Tel: (54-11) 4317-5509 -----Original Message----- From: Click here to reveal e-mail address [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Martes, 22 de Enero de 2002 01:29 p.m. To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] Single Sign On Service I see a need at our company for some sort of Single Sign On for all of = our applications (web-based and other). I know that Microsoft Passport is supposed to handle this out on public web sites. However, is there = anything analagous available for corporate in-house development or do we need to = roll our own? And I guess another question would be - is a web service a good idea = for Single Sign On? We would be using this for all new systems going = forward. I anticipate that all new systems will be web-based. Mostly developed = in ASP or ASP.NET using SQL Server, but some could be developed in JSP = with an Oracle back end. It would seem that in a heterogeneous environment = some sort of login service would be appropriate. Corey Burnett | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address =3D YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp =3D JOIN/QUIT Reply to this message...        Erba Pablo-ape004 Is ther a e-copy of the books published by Wrox? Because, In Argentina, the customs are very expensives, and it increment the cost of the book. Regards, Pablo. Pablo Erba Desarrollador VB/VB.NET - COM+ - ASP Motorola Argentina S.A. Click here to reveal e-mail address <mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address> Tel: (54-11) 4317-5509 -----Original Message----- From: Phil Winstanley [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Martes, 22 de Enero de 2002 01:50 p.m. To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] RE: Single Sign On Service Grab your self a copy of Professional ASP.NET Web Services by Wrox it has a case study on building one - its pretty simple. Hth, Plip. -- Phil Winstanley, Creations Group Limited http://www.creations-group.com mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address -- -----Original Message----- From: Click here to reveal e-mail address [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: 22 January 2002 16:29 To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] Single Sign On Service I see a need at our company for some sort of Single Sign On for all of our applications (web-based and other). I know that Microsoft Passport is supposed to handle this out on public web sites. However, is there anything analagous available for corporate in-house development or do we need to roll our own? And I guess another question would be - is a web service a good idea for Single Sign On? We would be using this for all new systems going forward. I anticipate that all new systems will be web-based. Mostly developed in ASP or ASP.NET using SQL Server, but some could be developed in JSP with an Oracle back end. It would seem that in a heterogeneous environment some sort of login service would be appropriate. Corey Burnett | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT Reply to this message...        Erba Pablo-ape004 OK, if you are in a MS platform, I recomend to build a component and a web service in a W2K Server, this Web Services accesss to your users directory information and retrieve the user setting throught the web service. What doy you think? Regards, Pablo. Pablo Erba Desarrollador VB/VB.NET - COM+ - ASP Motorola Argentina S.A. Click here to reveal e-mail address <mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address> Tel: (54-11) 4317-5509 -----Original Message----- From: Click here to reveal e-mail address [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Martes, 22 de Enero de 2002 01:49 p.m. To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] RE: Single Sign On Service I probably will. But from within the web service. How would a JSP application access Active Directory? Also, I would think that building a web service would simplify and standardize authentication so that developers on a project don't need to worry about how AD works - they can just use the published web service interface. I am a relative newbie but I am guessing that what I said makes sense! Right? Corey -----Original Message----- From: Todd Carrico [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:57 AM To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] RE: Single Sign On Service Why not use AD integration? tc -----Original Message----- From: Phil Winstanley [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:50 AM To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] RE: Single Sign On Service Grab your self a copy of Professional ASP.NET Web Services by Wrox it has a case study on building one - its pretty simple. Hth, Plip. -- Phil Winstanley, Creations Group Limited http://www.creations-group.com mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address -- -----Original Message----- From: Click here to reveal e-mail address [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: 22 January 2002 16:29 To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] Single Sign On Service I see a need at our company for some sort of Single Sign On for all of our applications (web-based and other). I know that Microsoft Passport is supposed to handle this out on public web sites. However, is there anything analagous available for corporate in-house development or do we need to roll our own? And I guess another question would be - is a web service a good idea for Single Sign On? We would be using this for all new systems going forward. I anticipate that all new systems will be web-based. Mostly developed in ASP or ASP.NET using SQL Server, but some could be developed in JSP with an Oracle back end. It would seem that in a heterogeneous environment some sort of login service would be appropriate. Corey Burnett | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT Reply to this message...        CBurnet2@fnmortgage.com That's what I was thinking. Actually currently we are using NT4 servers. I have just started with the company and we seem to be way behind in terms of technology. So I am going to be fighting the battle to get us up to W2K at a minimum and then build an authentication web service as one of the foundations for our web application infrastructure. However, someone earlier in the thread recommended looking at Active Directory and LDAP as a Single Sign On solution also. Is this a better way to go? I don't know much about Active Directory. I don't think that we are currently using it here because we have NT4 servers and we are also using Novell. Active Directory would seem to me to be a more complicated solution but that may be just because I don't know much about it. Thanks for everyone's input. Corey -----Original Message----- From: Erba Pablo-ape004 [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:19 PM To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] RE: Single Sign On Service OK, if you are in a MS platform, I recomend to build a component and a web service in a W2K Server, this Web Services accesss to your users directory information and retrieve the user setting throught the web service. What doy you think? Regards, Pablo. Pablo Erba Desarrollador VB/VB.NET - COM+ - ASP Motorola Argentina S.A. Click here to reveal e-mail address <mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address> Tel: (54-11) 4317-5509 -----Original Message----- From: Click here to reveal e-mail address [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Martes, 22 de Enero de 2002 01:49 p.m. To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] RE: Single Sign On Service I probably will. But from within the web service. How would a JSP application access Active Directory? Also, I would think that building a web service would simplify and standardize authentication so that developers on a project don't need to worry about how AD works - they can just use the published web service interface. I am a relative newbie but I am guessing that what I said makes sense! Right? Corey -----Original Message----- From: Todd Carrico [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:57 AM To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] RE: Single Sign On Service Why not use AD integration? tc -----Original Message----- From: Phil Winstanley [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:50 AM To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] RE: Single Sign On Service Grab your self a copy of Professional ASP.NET Web Services by Wrox it has a case study on building one - its pretty simple. Hth, Plip. -- Phil Winstanley, Creations Group Limited http://www.creations-group.com mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address -- -----Original Message----- From: Click here to reveal e-mail address [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address] Sent: 22 January 2002 16:29 To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] Single Sign On Service I see a need at our company for some sort of Single Sign On for all of our applications (web-based and other). I know that Microsoft Passport is supposed to handle this out on public web sites. However, is there anything analagous available for corporate in-house development or do we need to roll our own? And I guess another question would be - is a web service a good idea for Single Sign On? We would be using this for all new systems going forward. I anticipate that all new systems will be web-based. Mostly developed in ASP or ASP.NET using SQL Server, but some could be developed in JSP with an Oracle back end. It would seem that in a heterogeneous environment some sort of login service would be appropriate. Corey Burnett | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address = YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp = JOIN/QUIT Reply to this message...        Paul D. Murphy The passport single sign in and the Microsoft Active Directory both are based on the Kerberos authentication system. You could roll your own Kerberos but it would probably easier to use a resource like Active Directory. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Click here to reveal e-mail address [mailto:Click here to reveal e-mail address]=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:29 AM To: ngfx-hailstorm Subject: [ngfx-hailstorm] Single Sign On Service I see a need at our company for some sort of Single Sign On for all of our applications (web-based and other). I know that Microsoft Passport is supposed to handle this out on public web sites. However, is there anything analagous available for corporate in-house development or do we need to roll our own? And I guess another question would be - is a web service a good idea for Single Sign On? We would be using this for all new systems going forward. I anticipate that all new systems will be web-based. Mostly developed in ASP or ASP.NET using SQL Server, but some could be developed in JSP with an Oracle back end. It would seem that in a heterogeneous environment some sort of login service would be appropriate. Corey Burnett | [ngfx-hailstorm] member Click here to reveal e-mail address =3D YOUR ID | http://www.aspfriends.com/aspfriends/ngfx-hailstorm.asp =3D JOIN/QUIT Reply to this message...     Ad MBR BootFX Best-of-breed application framework for .NET projects, developed by Matthew Baxter-Reynolds and MBR IT

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